Some horses have a problem called shiverleg or shivers and this can cause the same sort of involuntary actions as stringhalt.
These horses will often kick or swing their back legs when you pick them up or may confuse the signals and pick up the opposite back leg when you ask them to lift. It is involuntary NOT behavioural and NOT a result of bad training or manners.
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/horsecare...
http://www.cvm.umn.edu/umec/lab/shivers....
http://www.horses-and-horse-information....
http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/...
The mare I look after will do tthis with both back legs when you ask to pick them out - it's not aggressive but she has to do it a couple of times before you can just hold.
http://www.boblangrish.com/images/galler...
These horses will often kick or swing their back legs when you pick them up or may confuse the signals and pick up the opposite back leg when you ask them to lift. It is involuntary NOT behavioural and NOT a result of bad training or manners.
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/horsecare...
http://www.cvm.umn.edu/umec/lab/shivers....
http://www.horses-and-horse-information....
http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/...
The mare I look after will do tthis with both back legs when you ask to pick them out - it's not aggressive but she has to do it a couple of times before you can just hold.
http://www.boblangrish.com/images/galler...
HPTS(UK)
Deals with a stringhalt sufferer and a shivers horse every single day for some years and has dealt with other similarly afflicted horses previously.
Deals with a stringhalt sufferer and a shivers horse every single day for some years and has dealt with other similarly afflicted horses previously.
In addition to string halt and shivers...Some horses just don't like it when you pick up their back feet. Others mind less. Just like people some horses are more likely to act out than others. Is it a training issue? Sometimes. Sometimes it is just that they are still too young to know better. Some horses will jerk or kick if they are a little sore. Others get very tired of standing (especially if older or heavier) and will at first lean and then start to jerk to get you to let go, for those horses take that as a signal that it is time to switch feet so they can rest.
Do all my own farrier work. Have for years and train my horses so that I can lay their foot in my lap when I shoe them if I want (I don't at least not without good reason, but I can).
A horse who's been stifled will pick their hind leg up high and wide and it could be misinterpreted as kicking, when it's just flat out painful to give you the hoof the normal way.
If they are trying to cow kick you, you'd know VERY fast and school them over it. Those are horses who have either not been worked with or been worked with incorrectly.
If they are trying to cow kick you, you'd know VERY fast and school them over it. Those are horses who have either not been worked with or been worked with incorrectly.
Over 40 years of training horses, riders and making/repairing saddles and tack. HPTS!!!
I think that for some horses, the position they must put their back foot into while you are picking it out is uncomfortable. That is how they express their discomfort since they can't say so. That's my theory anyway.
Also, some horses just have bad manners.
Also, some horses just have bad manners.
They think your going to hurt them. We had a problem with our horse because it never let us pick the mud of its feet and are horse vet person thing told us that it scared that we may hurt him so they kick.
Give them food so they don't notice.
Hi! I go horse riding to! I have my own pony named choc lat pud! Probably just does not like it. Some horses and ponies do that. They are all different. Choc lat pud did that. Just try and be genital with her. Hope my answer helps!!!!
they could be in some sort of pain or are hind leg shy. just that they dont like people standing near their butt.
or they are just really bratty, but most likey, they have a real problem that is triggering this action.
or they are just really bratty, but most likey, they have a real problem that is triggering this action.
i think they do that because they are telling you to leave them be and dont be bothered. or they just some what dangerous and the horses is not use to people taking there personal space !!!! :)
In my opinion there are only 3 reasons for this:
1) Poorly trained horse
2) A disrespectful horse with no manners
3) Foot ailment or inflammation to that foot that causes discomfort at the lightest touch.
1) Poorly trained horse
2) A disrespectful horse with no manners
3) Foot ailment or inflammation to that foot that causes discomfort at the lightest touch.
HPTS
#1: if someone came up to you and tried to pick your feet, wouldn't you boot them too?
#2 the do it because they can
#2 the do it because they can
It is always a training issue. If I pick up the hoof of my horse, and there is pain, my horse doesn't tell me that by kicking a little or a lot...they know from their training that kicking doesn't make me investigate their issues. So, it is all about how they are trained from the get-go. I'm not saying my horse won't kick out....but it will only happen once, because I will find out the reason before it has to happen again, and establish the needed communication. The fact that my horses know and trust this about me is everything. It is this same trust that allows me to go anywhere with them and never worry about them bolting and running off....this is what people don't get about trust between horses and people. This kind of trust is trained and makes horses safe to ride anywhere, without worry about bolting and running. if your horse trusts your judgement, he/she will wait for your signal to react to any and everything.......because they know that you are going to keep them safe, and you have proven to them that their own judgement did not keep them safe.
57 years with horses